Monday, September 03, 2007

Jesus Our Sabbath Rest, Part 1


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This week's message on Grace Walk Radio:

Jesus Our Sabbath Rest, Part 1

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9 comments:

dec said...

You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Thanks, Terry. These scriptures took on a much deeper meaning when I understood that Christ is our Sabbath, and our works profane Him.

Terry Rayburn said...

dec,

It's a wonderful truth, isn't it? Christ, our Life, and our rest.

ke said...

The writer to the Hebrews in the Diaspora reminds us that: "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God." Halleluyah!

That which "remains" is that which continues from the past, that is, Elohim our Father's written Torah / Law / Instructions in Righteousness including the command to "Remember the Sabbath day (7th day) to keep it holy . . ." Glory to God.

This is the holiest of all Elohim's moedim (appointed times - holy days.) 'Yeshua Ha Mashiach said nothing to overturn His Father's seventh day Sabbath and nor did His Apostles. If he had he would have been a false prophet and false messiah because according to Deuteronomy 13 and 18. For that Prophet and Messiah would be like Moshe. Like Moshe, 'Yeshua fulfilled the Law, that is he correctly interpreted, taught, applied and did the Law.

'Yeshua asks us: "If we don't believe, trust, rely on and cling to Moshe and his writings, how will we believe, trust, rely on and cling to what he says?" John 5:47.

For to know, trust and love Elohim is to obey Him. 'Yeshua's teaching is not his own but the Father's who sent him. If anyone's will is to do Elohim's will, he will know whether the teaching is from Elohim or whether 'Yeshua is speaking on his own authority." John 7:16-17

Indeed Paul, the least of the Apostles, confessed that "faith establishes Elohim's written Torah." Romans 3:31

'Yeshua is saying today: "Do not think I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish but to fulfill or correctly interpret, teach and apply and do them.

For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, nor a dot will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments (such as the 7th day Sabbath) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven . . . " Mattityahu (Matthew) 5:17-20

The "works" of the law you refer to in your response to dec is really the oral torah of the Pharisee and Rabbinic elders which had added to or taken away over the years from Elohim's written Torah in violation of Deuteronomy 4:2 and enslaved the Jewish people under a yoke of bondage they could not bear.

To this 'Yeshua rebuked Pharisee and Rabbinic elders when he said: "You make void the word of Elohim by your traditions."

'Yeshua freed us from the "works of the law" and spoke of His Father's Torah which, if obeyed, gives life and freedom and which if disobeyed brings death and slavery. For the wages of sin (the transgression of Elohim our Father's Torah) is death and everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. But Elohim's written Torah is the Royal Law of Liberty. James 1:25 & 2:8

Elohim's Torah / Commandments / Instructions in Righteousness are not burdensome. For "By this we know that we love the children of Elohim, when we love Elohim and obey his commandments. For this is the love of Elohim, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not grievous and burdensome." I john 5:2-3

I do want to be called great in the kingdom of heaven and so by Elohim's grace I do and teach Elohim's Torah / Law / Commandments / Instructions in Righteousness as did 'Yeshua and the Apostles.

ke said...

Oops! Yeshua asks us: " "If you don't believe, trust, rely on and cling to Moshe and his writings, how will you believe, trust, rely on and cling to what I say or what I teach?" John 5:47.

Terry Rayburn said...

ke,

You simply don't understand that the Old Covenant is obsolete (Hebrews 8).

Actually, my real sense is that you WON't understand that, but are suppressing that truth, out of tradition and false teaching.

You totally misquote John 5:47, as well as take it out of context.

It actually says, "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me."

The context is that even the writings of Moses looked forward to Jesus the Messiah.

John 5:39 says, "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me."

Even you, ke, would not obey all that Moses taught. Go to Leviticus, start at the beginning, and see if you keep all those laws. Of course not.

Read and re-read Hebrews 8 until God makes it clear to you that the Old Covenant is obsolete.

Only when you understand that will your eyes be opened to "Jesus Our Sabbath Rest".

ke said...

Terry,

No, but your teaching that this Jesus is our Sabbath Rest, thus abolishing Elohim's 7th day Sabbath, is not from the Father but you speak on your own authority. You do not believe Moshe and his writings so you create your own Halacha, Mishnah, Takanot, Gezerot, Minhagim and Ma'asim just as our Pharisaic and Rabbinic elders did in times past and so are guilty of the same transgression forbidden by Deuteronomy 4:2 as our elders commited and tempt me to make follow after another god.

'Yeshua's teaching is not his own, but is the Father's who sent him. If anyone's will is to do Elohim's will, he will know whether the teaching is from Elohim or whether 'Yeshua is speaking on his own authority.

Your words against me are false and you made a mistake.
I correctly quoted Yeshua. In John 5:47, 'Yeshua is saying:

"If you do not believe, trust in, rely on and cling to Moshe and his writings, how will you believe, trust in, rely on and cling to what I say?"

I quoted 'Yeshua in the correct and complete context; the "writings of Moshe," which include the five books of the Torah as well as the sayings / teachings of our Messiah and Redeemer 'Yeshua. But you do not believe, trust in, rely on and cling to Moses and his writings so you do not understand what 'Yeshua is saying.

No! You read and carefully observe and fulfill the "writings of Moshe." I am Hebrew and student of the Hebrew Torah. I find nothing in the aforementioned "writings of Moshe," including Leviticus, that are a burden or difficult to obey that apply to me as you falsely assert.

However Apostle Paul noted: "The mind that is set on the flesh - the carnal mind - is hostile to Elohim, for it does not submit to the law of Elohim. Indeed it cannot." Romans 8:7

The letter to the Hebrews, upon which you rely, is written to those like me in the Diaspora. For in the eighth chapter he addresses both the House of Ysra'el and the House of Yehuda from the words of prophet Jeremiah 31:31-34 to assure us of future Salvation re: a New Covenant Elohim will establish with us. This New Covenant in the blood of 'Yeshua my Ha Mashiach establishes Elohim's Torah / Law / Commandments / Instructions in Righteousness, which will be written on the hearts of MY OWN PEOPLE and YHWH will again be our Elohim and WE SHALL BE HIS PEOPLE. Halleluyah! So faith establishes the Law. Romans 3.

And like our ancestors before us, we will once again say: "All that YHWH our Elohim has spoken we will do." and "In those days and in that time, declares YHWH, we the people of Ysra'el and the people of Yehuda shall come together, weeping as we come, and we shall seek YHWH our Elohim. We shall ask the way to Tzyon, with our faces turned toward it, saying, 'Come, let us join ourselves to YHWH our Elohim in an everlasting covenant that will never be forgotten."

Elohim my Father has written his Torah on my heart and put it in my mind so that I, like the Apostle Paul, delight in the Law of Elohim. And 'Yeshua Ha Mashiach has exchanged His righteousness for my lawlessness and iniquity and become my salvation and the salvation of my people.

I entreat you, therefore, to reconsider the Master's warnings regarding obedience and lawlessness:

"For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, nor a dot will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments (such as the 7th day Sabbath) and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven . . . "

Not everyone who says to me, Adonai, Adonai, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Rather who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, Adonai, Adonai, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name: And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you, depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'"
Mattityahu (Matthew) 5:17-20; 7:21-23

Terry Rayburn said...

ke,

Your distorted view of Scripture is exactly the legalism that Paul warned about in his writing to the Galatians.

I, like Paul, love the laws of God, declaring them to be pure and right and good, and reflecting His heart, which I love in my heart of hearts.

So the question is not one of lawlessness, but one of legalism.

You are not being honest when you say you keep all the laws of Leviticus. I'm sure you did not take my advice and start at the beginning and see.

For example, in the very first chapter it speaks of bringing animals for a burnt offering to the Lord. Surely you don't do this.

And I'm sure you have a very good explanation for NOT doing this.

I get that.

But in doing so you have contradicted yourself in saying that you do ALL that Moses wrote, and made my point for me that there has been a shift from Old Covenant to New Covenant.

God has covenanted with Himself to love and favor us strictly through Jesus and His work on the cross.

Of course we should obey Him now, if only in gratitude. And we will do so (imperfectly) if we are born again. But nothing we do (or don't do) can alter His love and favor toward us.

Finally, even if law-keeping had the place you give it, as some kind of requirement to be saved or to stay saved, it would have to be kept PERFECTLY.

So I'll leave you with the question, "Do you keep the law PERFECTLY?"

If not, then you break ALL of it.

And that's why we need a Savior.

I'll give you the last word -- probably :)

Anonymous said...

My Dear neighbor Terry,

In response to my previous missive to you wherein I said:

"I find nothing in the . . . "writings of Moshe," including Leviticus, that are a burden or difficult [I John 5] to obey that apply to me . . ."

You asked me:
"So I'll leave you with the question, "Do you keep the law PERFECTLY?""

If you understood Torah, you would already know the answer to the question as to "keeping the law PERFECTLY". For the answer to your question is clearly answered throughout Torah and by the apostles themselves. I will give you a Hint. Deuteronomy 6 and Leviticus 19

As to your reference to Leviticus chptr. one burnt offerings, etc. If you carefully observe and understand that particular portion of Torah, you would know that I already answered your question in my previous missive.
Hint: What is the complete command?

natser said...

My Dear neighbor Terry,

In response to my previous missive to you wherein I said:

"I find nothing in the . . . "writings of Moshe," including Leviticus, that are a burden or difficult [I John 5] to obey that apply to me . . ."

You asked me:
"So I'll leave you with the question, "Do you keep the law PERFECTLY?""

If you understood Torah, you would already know the answer to the question as to "keeping the law PERFECTLY". For the answer to your question is clearly answered throughout Torah and by the apostles themselves. I will give you a Hint. Deuteronomy 6 and Leviticus 19

As to your reference to Leviticus chptr. one burnt offerings, etc. If you carefully observe and understand that particular portion of Torah, you would know that I already answered your question in my previous missive.
Hint: What is the complete command?